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skapunkbeyond:

Had to reblog this. Fuck ignorance. Fuck manipulation. Question everything before accepting as fact.

Yes, indeed. Fuck ignorance.

Quran 5:32 and 5:33, in their unedited state, from Quran.com:

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

The best part? The above poster says to “stop taking the Quran out of context.”

What a fucking joke.

UPDATE: For some additional context, 5:36 - 5:38:

Indeed, those who disbelieve - if they should have all that is in the earth and the like of it with it by which to ransom themselves from the punishment of the Day of Resurrection, it will not be accepted from them, and for them is a painful punishment

They will wish to get out of the Fire, but never are they to emerge therefrom, and for them is an enduring punishment.

[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they committed as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah . And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

Note that there is some bullshit about forgiveness in here but it rings hollow after instructing amputation for anyone as punishment. Check out the complete surah for all the context you could want.

Oh, and just to clarify: the original advertisement this girl is protesting is fucking dumb, as well.

atheist-me

atheistme:

‘Islam to me is the most horrible thing I have experienced in my life.’

This video is heartbreaking :(
No matter what good this religion has ever contributed to the world, it can never make up for the horrors that are done in the name of it every single day. 

Difficult to endure. Worth watching.

I agree with the above — things like this are happening in the name of Islam every day. If this happened in the United States, in the name of Christianity, sponsored by the state, there would be civil war. But progressives will rush to defend Islam as a misunderstood religion of peace because it is not a western practice.

End cultural relativism. End ignorance. End sexism. End religion.

retromantique

retromantique:

robertwmcbean:

How to pick the wrong profession…

lol, really? maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan I don’t want to live on this planet anymore

Expel them all. Even if they pass the exam. The point of the exam is to test your knowledge in the hopes that you will actually utilize that knowledge in the future. 

friendlyatheist:

The more pragmatic Muslim Brotherhood is poised to take the largest share of votes, as much as 45 percent. But the Nour Party, which espouses a strict interpretation of Islam in which democracy is subordinate to the Quran, could win a quarter of the house, giving it much power to affect debate. A spokesman, Yousseri Hamad, said his party considers God’s law the only law. “In the land of Islam, I can’t let people decide what is permissible or what is prohibited,” Hamad told The Associated Press. “It is God who gives the answers as to what is right and what is wrong.” The Nour Party is the main political arm of the hard-line Salafist Muslim movement, which espouses a strict form of Islam similar to that practiced in Saudi Arabia. Salafis, who often wear long beards and seek to imitate the life of the Prophet Muhammad, speak openly about their aim of turning Egypt into a state where personal freedoms, including freedom of speech, women’s dress and art, are constrained by Islamic law — goals that make many Egyptians nervous. Salafis object to women in leadership roles, citing Muhammad as saying that “no people succeed if led by women.” However, when election regulations forced all parties to include women, Salafi cleric Yasser el-Bourhami relented, saying that “committing small sins” is better than “committing bigger ones” — by which he meant letting secular people run the government. In the end, the party put women at the bottom of its lists, represented by flowers since women’s photos were deemed inappropriate. This week, Salafi cleric and parliamentary candidate Abdel-Monem Shahat caused a stir by saying the novels of Egypt’s Nobel laureate Naguib Mahfouz, read widely in Egyptian schools, are “all prostitution.”

I guess all these individuals are not “true” muslims….

Haha. Noting that progressives on Tumblr are blind to any plight not perpetrated by crotchety white Americans, I’ve revised 

The more pragmatic Conservative Party is poised to take the largest share of votes, as much as 45 percent. But the Tea Party, which espouses a strict interpretation of Christianity in which democracy is subordinate to the Bible, could win a quarter of the house, giving it much power to affect debate. A spokesman, some old white dude, said his party considers God’s law the only law. “In the land of God, I can’t let people decide what is permissible or what is prohibited,” some old white dude told The Associated Press. “It is God who gives the answers as to what is right and what is wrong.” The Tea Party is the main political arm of the hard-line Evangelist Christian movement, which espouses a strict form of Christianity similar to that practiced in some shitty fucking placeAssholes, who often wear ugly suits and seek to imitate the life of the Rush Limbaugh, speak openly about their aim of turning the United States into one nation under God,  where personal freedoms, including freedom of speech, women’s rights and art, are constrained by Islamic law — goals that make many rational people nervous. Old white people object to women in leadership roles, citing Corinthians 11:3 as saying that “the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; ” However, when election regulations forced all parties to include homosexualsanother old white guy relented, saying that “committing small sins” is better than “committing bigger ones” — by which he meant letting secular people run the government. In the end, the party put homosexuals at the bottom of its lists, represented by rainbows since their immaculately well-groomed faces were deemed inappropriate. This week, Salafi cleric and parliamentary candidate Asshole McChristian caused a stir by saying the novels of any progressive novelist ever, read widely in American schools, are “all sinful.”

I realize there is some hardcore exaggeration in what I’ve written, but seriously; we progressives need to give up this cultural relativism bullshit. Human rights violations are violations, regardless of who perpetrates them and where. We must nip this issue in the bud before it spreads further, as we are already seeing in some European countries.

(sorry friendlyatheist, posting anew instead of reblogging since reblogs don’t show up in tag searches — forgive me!)

retromantique
retromantique:

jethroq:

Believe what you want, but I make no secret that any religion that refers to its folllowers as slaves (or sheep, for that matter) is not going to entice me to join any time soon.

For real. Also, it seems to me that all it is, like Christianity and Judaism IMO, is an escape for the intellectually lazy. The forever alone guy got sick of thinking? Here, let’s find an old book and make it easy for the poor, poor brain. Stop looking for answers and use the little time you’ve got on Earth to enjoy life, for fuck’s sake!

"Allah wants His slaves to have an easy religion."
If that sentence doesn’t freak you out, you are fucked up.

retromantique:

jethroq:

Believe what you want, but I make no secret that any religion that refers to its folllowers as slaves (or sheep, for that matter) is not going to entice me to join any time soon.

For real. Also, it seems to me that all it is, like Christianity and Judaism IMO, is an escape for the intellectually lazy. The forever alone guy got sick of thinking? Here, let’s find an old book and make it easy for the poor, poor brain. Stop looking for answers and use the little time you’ve got on Earth to enjoy life, for fuck’s sake!

"Allah wants His slaves to have an easy religion."

If that sentence doesn’t freak you out, you are fucked up.

the72sects

the72sects:

For the sake of brevity, I’ve omitted the original parts of this post which can be found here.

In response to brad-t:

Firstly, if you read my blog, you’ll note that I am totally against radical or irrational responses to the slander that is heaped against Islam and Muslims. So for you to be embarrassed for my part because of my supposed defense of the above action is for one thing pompous (there’s that word again) and for another grossly misinformed.

Believers often find non-believers to be pompous, and vice versa. It is easy to say that you are against radical reactions, but you retroactively justify them, however subtly.

Secondly, actually you cannot “disprove just about everything mentioned in the holy books of said religions” because you’re obviously again misinformed in believing that the Quran contains the same scientifically proven inaccuracies of the bible. If you take the time to read the Quran, you’ll note that there are a number of accuracies  contained therein, so much so that present day scientists cannot explain how such accurate detail could have been contained in a scripture from the desert penned by an illiterate man over 1400 years ago. So in fact the reverse of your statement is actually true. Embryology, big bang theory, orbital paths of the planets, origin of the moon, etc. Look it up. You may be pleasantly surprised to discover that the Quran explained these concepts when the church was still burning people at the stake for opposing the flat-earth view. 

I’ll state now that just because there is a smidgen of truth in a book of lies does not vindicate your belief system. Furthermore, many of the “scientific facts” espoused by the Quran were either already discovered by the Greeks or are very clearly being retroactively applied to fit the mould of the Quran’s text. Just like in the Bible, much of the text in the Quran is vague enough that you can apply many different meanings to it successfully. Even pro-Islam Big Bang interpretation arguments are not at all convincing.

Yes, Muslims did know that human conception requires sperm. I can’t imagine how they deduced it.

Thirdly, I will never defend a Muslim or anyone else if their actions are blatantly contrary to Islamic beliefs, and obviously extreme. Again, read through some of my posts and you’ll note that I am not in any way supportive of extremism, and in fact, neither is Islam which dictates that we lead a life of moderation. Killing of innocent women and children, suicide bombings, cowardly acts of terror, disproportionate use of force, scorched earth policy, etc. are all hallmarks of warfare of the western powers and other non-Muslim organisations like the Tamil Tigers that Muslims have unfortunately adopted for themselves. Just because it’s carried out by Muslims these days does not in any way imply that it is sanctioned in Islam. It’s not!

This gives me hope, but …

As for your final paragraph, there is actually some truth in there. Again, read my posts and you’ll see that I fully encourage the reformation of Muslims before we complain about the perception of the West on Islam. Muslims have tainted the image of Islam, and not the other way around. If you read my original response to this post again, I suspect you’ll note that I did in fact raise concerns about both sides and not just one, unlike you that appear to be making the publisher a victim in all this. The Muslims were wrong to firebomb the building because it was a cowardly act, and the publisher was wrong to be deliberately insensitive on what is obviously a very volatile subject. Act in the extreme, and you can expect responses in the extreme. Again, that is not a justification, simply stating the facts because it’s obvious that this world is not full of rational people, be they Muslim, non-Muslim or otherwise. 

What this newspaper did was not extreme. It may have been insensitive, but so what? Are we to coddle Muslims like babies because we should anticipate their tantrums? No. Grow up. We live in a free world where we can criticize what we want, however we want. I am anti-conservative, and while I may wish that Fox News be wiped from the surface of the Earth, I know that is not the way to do things.

You call both the press and the Muslim reaction “extreme”, equalizing them, but that is like equalizing a drop of water to the world’s oceans. So even though you say you do not defend the violent reactions of Muslims, you implicitly justify it by equalizing the response to its provocation.

The publisher is the victim. Whether or not you agree with what they think about Islam, they did not do anything wrong. Insensitivity is not a crime. Muslims should condemn their perverse sense of “justice” to the caverns of the world’s dark past.

the72sects
the72sects:

retromantique:

Well, it’s a touchy subject. You can’t hope to rally the other progressives on your side if you speak with such words. It’s kind of annoying, I know, but at the same time, you have to keep in mind that a lot of those zealous people are first and foremost: victims. Those religions have been carefully created to enslave human minds, it’s brainwashing since the cradle. That’s why it’s a touchy subject: some progressives only see this, while other people associate all Muslims to be terrorist and such. We have to make the distinction very clearly and in a way that our fellow progressives can get behind, so we are not thrown too easily in the second category.
Of course, you’ll always have idiots (yes, true idiots) who only care about pushing their own subjective agendas. Even the most reasonable, polite and well-thought critic of an act violating universal human rights, if committed by a non-white-heterosexual-christian-male, will go at best to be dismissed, at worst to be rooted in this stupid concept of “Islamophobia”. So basically, our goal should be first and foremost to rally all progressives back in track of defending universal human rights, no exception. Once they stop standing in the way of progress, we can hope to bring changes in the law and society as a whole in order to protect individuals from the brainwashing and mind destruction of religions. Let’s just hope that happens before WE become the minority, thanks to their irresponsible birth rate.

This is so pompous and ill-informed, it seriously lacks any humour and barely holds any merit. A bunch of ‘progressives’ patting each other on their backs for taking a stand about everyone else’s belief systems as self-declared protectors of the freedom of religion under the guise of protecting universal human rights for those that were too irresponsible to think before having children. Right?
Perhaps it would do the author/s good if they actually sought to understand the issues before spewing this drivel. Also, it would also be great if they bothered to look at the deliberate and consistent provocation involved in the incident that they so liberally reference in their posts. One more thing worth noting is that religion has become a cash cow for the cash strapped and creatively challenged media outlets. When sales fall, pick on the Muslims, but ensure you to do it to the point where you’ll provoke an irrational response, cry foul and defend your freedom of speech, and then watch your sales figures go through the roof. The same satirical publication referenced in these posts did exactly that a few years ago, and it seems they’ve realised how profitable it can be.
Hopefully some day soon the Muslims will realise that they’re being baited, that they’re fighting a losing battle trying to earn dignity for Muslims through secular courts and that in fact their only chance at salvaging their dignity is in true reform, and not assimilation. Reform of their own actions, reform of their inclination to pick and choose what is or is not good to implement in their lives, reform of the practice of Islam independent of the cultural contamination that has served to polarise the Ummah in ways that we have yet to realise. 

The reform needed in Islam is the same reform needed by all other religions — abolition.
There is no justification for the continued existence of primitive belief systems in a world where we can disprove just about everything mentioned in the holy books of said religions. They are tools of the ignorant, only perpetuated by ignorance and brain-washing. They are the uninformed ramblings of delusional desert-men, grasping for explanations as to why the sun goes down at night.
The fact that you try to defend the Muslims who committed this fire-bombing makes me embarrassed for you and shows how completely out of touch they are with the realities of the situation. This newspaper made fun of Islam. It doesn’t matter fuck-all why they did it. They did not bomb anyone, kill anyone, or injure anything other than the typically fragile egos of the fanatically religious. You cannot say that this response is not part of a larger pattern of violence among Muslims. Just because we can predict the irrational , disproportionate reactions of fanatical Muslims does not excuse their behaviour.
I don’t think Muslims were being baited here, but let’s say for the sake of argument that they were. What does that change? These were human beings with the capability of rational thought who firebombed a building because of satirical articles and cartoons. Muslims are people and they should be held to the same standard we expect of any other person. This has happened too many times before.
If Muslims want to change the perception of Islam, the onus is on them to do so. And as long as this type of behaviour is justifiably expected of them, they will continue to be looked down upon. Fix your own problems before you bitch about perception.

the72sects:

retromantique:

Well, it’s a touchy subject. You can’t hope to rally the other progressives on your side if you speak with such words. It’s kind of annoying, I know, but at the same time, you have to keep in mind that a lot of those zealous people are first and foremost: victims. Those religions have been carefully created to enslave human minds, it’s brainwashing since the cradle. That’s why it’s a touchy subject: some progressives only see this, while other people associate all Muslims to be terrorist and such. We have to make the distinction very clearly and in a way that our fellow progressives can get behind, so we are not thrown too easily in the second category.

Of course, you’ll always have idiots (yes, true idiots) who only care about pushing their own subjective agendas. Even the most reasonable, polite and well-thought critic of an act violating universal human rights, if committed by a non-white-heterosexual-christian-male, will go at best to be dismissed, at worst to be rooted in this stupid concept of “Islamophobia”. 

So basically, our goal should be first and foremost to rally all progressives back in track of defending universal human rights, no exception. Once they stop standing in the way of progress, we can hope to bring changes in the law and society as a whole in order to protect individuals from the brainwashing and mind destruction of religions. Let’s just hope that happens before WE become the minority, thanks to their irresponsible birth rate.

This is so pompous and ill-informed, it seriously lacks any humour and barely holds any merit. A bunch of ‘progressives’ patting each other on their backs for taking a stand about everyone else’s belief systems as self-declared protectors of the freedom of religion under the guise of protecting universal human rights for those that were too irresponsible to think before having children. Right?

Perhaps it would do the author/s good if they actually sought to understand the issues before spewing this drivel. Also, it would also be great if they bothered to look at the deliberate and consistent provocation involved in the incident that they so liberally reference in their posts. One more thing worth noting is that religion has become a cash cow for the cash strapped and creatively challenged media outlets. When sales fall, pick on the Muslims, but ensure you to do it to the point where you’ll provoke an irrational response, cry foul and defend your freedom of speech, and then watch your sales figures go through the roof. The same satirical publication referenced in these posts did exactly that a few years ago, and it seems they’ve realised how profitable it can be.

Hopefully some day soon the Muslims will realise that they’re being baited, that they’re fighting a losing battle trying to earn dignity for Muslims through secular courts and that in fact their only chance at salvaging their dignity is in true reform, and not assimilation. Reform of their own actions, reform of their inclination to pick and choose what is or is not good to implement in their lives, reform of the practice of Islam independent of the cultural contamination that has served to polarise the Ummah in ways that we have yet to realise. 

The reform needed in Islam is the same reform needed by all other religions — abolition.

There is no justification for the continued existence of primitive belief systems in a world where we can disprove just about everything mentioned in the holy books of said religions. They are tools of the ignorant, only perpetuated by ignorance and brain-washing. They are the uninformed ramblings of delusional desert-men, grasping for explanations as to why the sun goes down at night.

The fact that you try to defend the Muslims who committed this fire-bombing makes me embarrassed for you and shows how completely out of touch they are with the realities of the situation. This newspaper made fun of Islam. It doesn’t matter fuck-all why they did it. They did not bomb anyone, kill anyone, or injure anything other than the typically fragile egos of the fanatically religious. You cannot say that this response is not part of a larger pattern of violence among Muslims. Just because we can predict the irrational , disproportionate reactions of fanatical Muslims does not excuse their behaviour.

I don’t think Muslims were being baited here, but let’s say for the sake of argument that they were. What does that change? These were human beings with the capability of rational thought who firebombed a building because of satirical articles and cartoons. Muslims are people and they should be held to the same standard we expect of any other person. This has happened too many times before.

If Muslims want to change the perception of Islam, the onus is on them to do so. And as long as this type of behaviour is justifiably expected of them, they will continue to be looked down upon. Fix your own problems before you bitch about perception.

retromantique
I get what you mean about “this isn’t what Islam is about,” but to be frank, I don’t really care what Islam is about, nor do I care what any other religion is about. I don’t really care what dumb god(s) anyone decides to believe in. I do care about my fellow progressives making half-apologies (by acknowledging the “importance of” a specific image/being) and exceptions for “othered” religions (Islam especially).
Any religion should be free to be as dumb as they want, but there is no excuse for firebombing or otherwise intimidating or crusading against those who challenge/make fun of/disagree with your belief system. Whether or not this is the “real” Islam, it is being done in the name of Islam. As far as I’m concerned, it is up to Muslims to correct their public image, not up to me to look for the good through all the murder, violence, and sexism. I don’t respect non-existent beings, and I don’t respect their followers until they respect humanity.
Please don’t mistake this for intolerant/hateful speech against Muslims or Arabs. I believe that all religions are equally poisonous and undermine the fabric of modern society.
Leefatheree on the firebombing of the French satyrical Charlie’s Hebdo. Click on the source to see the chain of comment he was answering to. (via retromantique)
retromantique
retromantique:

That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t use critical thinking to call out the misogynistic and homophobic practices of Islam. I’m fucking sick of people being extremists themselves: either judging all Muslims to be terrorists or judging every non-white-heterosexual-christian-male as something holy and perfect that should be absolved of any wrongdoing. 
Where are the people who are truly not racist: using critical thinking for all humans on the same level of equality, no matter what the colour of their skin is?

Agreed.
A phobia is an irrational fear. There is nothing irrational about the fear of a rapidly-spreading, violent, misogynistic, racist, ignorant, hyper-conservative ideology. Every religion does indeed have its extremists, but in no other religion does the proportion and sheer numbers even approach the numbers of Islamic extremists.
Progressives defend Islam as a “religion of peace” because they are compelled to defend the underdog. But know this: Islam is no underdog. That is a very Western way to look at things. Islam is rapidly consuming communities and nations. True progressives need to stand against this hyper-conservative ideology, no matter what the skin color of its proponents is.

retromantique:

That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t use critical thinking to call out the misogynistic and homophobic practices of Islam. I’m fucking sick of people being extremists themselves: either judging all Muslims to be terrorists or judging every non-white-heterosexual-christian-male as something holy and perfect that should be absolved of any wrongdoing. 

Where are the people who are truly not racist: using critical thinking for all humans on the same level of equality, no matter what the colour of their skin is?

Agreed.

A phobia is an irrational fear. There is nothing irrational about the fear of a rapidly-spreading, violent, misogynistic, racist, ignorant, hyper-conservative ideology. Every religion does indeed have its extremists, but in no other religion does the proportion and sheer numbers even approach the numbers of Islamic extremists.

Progressives defend Islam as a “religion of peace” because they are compelled to defend the underdog. But know this: Islam is no underdog. That is a very Western way to look at things. Islam is rapidly consuming communities and nations. True progressives need to stand against this hyper-conservative ideology, no matter what the skin color of its proponents is.

retromantique

retromantique:

I am an atheist with an affinity for non-fundamentalist religious believers whose faith has made room for secular knowledge. I am also a political liberal. I am not, however, a multiculturalist who believes that all cultures and religions are equally worthy of respect. And I find myself in a lonely place in relation to many liberals, political and religious, because I cannot accept a multiculturalism that tends to excuse, under the rubric of “tolerance,” religious and cultural practices that violate universal human rights.

If there are more liberals in the same situation and that blog a lot about this, please reblog so I can follow you.

And before getting on your high horses, ready to throw the “racist!!!” bullshit argument because somebody criticize multiculturalism, please read the article to the end.